Is there a such a thing as truly Texas bourbon? Heck yeah! To give you "The Answer," Milam & Greene conducted a five-year experiment comparing bourbon aging in Kentucky vs. Texas. They distilled bourbon in Bardstown, Kentucky in 2019, took half of it and barreled it and aged it in KY, and shipped the other half to Texas to be barreled and aged at their distillery. It's the exact same bourbon, aged for the exact same time, but in two different states. The Texas climate really does affect the taste of bourbon.

Join Milam & Greene Whiskey at the distillery for "The Answer" Release Party, where both bourbons are available (ages 21+) in 375ml bottles and packaged in a bespoke wooden box. This world-first side-by-side tasting set lets people taste science in a glass.

In addition to delicious whiskey and cocktails, there will be live music, BBQ, games, and surprises at this special launch party on Saturday, May 31st from noon to 5:00pm.

Saturday May 31st the fire department is putting on a cornhole tournament at our distillery.
They are allowing the public to participate.

Bar and kitchen open at 11am and the tournament starts at noon.

Please contact Krista Cantrell at 682-554-0747 with any further questions.

Hope to see ya’ll there!

Shiner Summerfest 2025 – Rock the Start of Summer! 🎆

Get ready to ignite your summer at the 2nd Annual Shiner Summerfest, happening Saturday, May 31st, at the iconic K. Spoetzl Brewery & Distillery in Shiner, TX!

Experience a full day of electrifying live rock music across two stages, featuring:

MAIN STAGE:

2:00–4:00 PM: Let It Rock
4:45–6:45 PM: The Damn Torpedoes
7:30–9:30 PM: Spandex Nation
9:30 PM: Fireworks Show

PAVILION STAGE:

1:00–2:00 PM, 4:00–4:45 PM, 6:45–7:30 PM: Koehler Lane

**Doors open at 12:00pm**

• Refreshing Shiner Beers and Shiner Spirits cocktails to keep you cool and in high spirits. Each ticket includes 3 complimentary beers for guests 21 and over (valid ID required).

• Mouthwatering BBQ from our very own K. Spoetzl BBQ Co., plus a variety of delicious snacks.

• Spectacular fireworks show at 9:30 PM to cap off the night with a bang!

• Family-Friendly Fun: Kids 12 and under get in FREE!

• Brewery Tours every 30 minutes and Distillery Tours every hour, starting at 12:30 PM.

• Special Merchandise: Shop exclusive event gear at our gift shop.

Get Tickets Here

Salsa Nights are back at Giant Texas — Friday, May 30th!
Get ready for a night full of flavor, rhythm, and fun

7–8PM: Salsa Class (no experience needed!)
8–10PM: DJ Eddy spinning the hottest Latin hits
Reverse Happy Hour from 7–10PM

Whether you're dancing or sipping, this is the Friday night plan you’ve been waiting for. Don’t miss it!

Whiskey Riot is officially coming to Fort Worth on May 24, 2025.

This event is *THE* event of the year for whiskey lovers and the whiskey curious where you'll get to try over 200 whiskies, taste creative whiskey cocktails, meet fellow whiskey lovers, and more.

Ready to riot? Keep reading + make sure to mark yourself as 'Going' or 'Interested in this event page to stay up to date on all things Fort Worth Whiskey Riot

Whiskey Riot: A Festival of Whiskeys

• The world of whiskey is vast; diving in can be daunting. Our festival offers samplings of hundreds of whiskeys, seminars and fantastic conversations with whiskey lovers, distillers, brand founders and more to arm you with the tools you need to become a whiskey expert. And, oh, yeah... you'll have one hell of a time.

WHO IS WHISKEY RIOT FOR?

• The Whiskey Lover, the Whiskey Curious, the Whiskey Enthusiast, the Whiskey Aficionado, the Whiskey Rookie. All are welcome!

WHY SHOULD YOU ATTEND?

• Discovering new whiskeys can be an expensive exploration. Signage in a liquor store and the details on a bottle’s label will only tell you so much. How do you know you’re going to take home something you love? There’s no better way to find your new favorite drink than side-by-side comparison tasting.

• Whiskey Riot is a large format tasting event complete with brand representatives who can answer questions, explain the nuances of what your tasting and leave you feeling armed with more whiskey knowledge.

FAQs and General Rules

• Date: Saturday, May 24, 2025
• Time: 4-7 PM (Early Entry Admission Hour: 3-4 PM)
• Place: The Social Space, 205 S Calhoun St., Fort Worth, TX 76104

How many whiskeys will be available to try?

• Over 200 varieties!

What’s included in a General Admission (GA) Ticket?

• General Admission ticket holders will receive a branded rocks tasting glass and be given full range of the venue to taste whichever whiskeys they desire. Sorting through this many whiskeys would require a prohibitively expensive investment in bottles were a whiskey explorer to pursue a tasting this vast on their own. The GA ticket provides a pathway to finding your new favorite whiskey without breaking the bank.

What’s included in an Early Entry Admission Ticket (formerly known VIP tickets)?

• Early Entry Admission ticket holders (formerly known as VIP in years past) will receive access to the event 1 hour earlier than General Admission entry. They’ll receive all of the same benefits of the General Admission ticket, which include a branded tasting glass, full range of the venue to taste whichever whiskeys they desire and access to limited edition and rare whiskies that will not be available during the General Admission time (list to be added in late-December!) The big emphasis on this ticket is an extra hour in the event without large crowds.

What happened to VIP tickets?

• If you bought VIP tickets for previous years, you might wonder where those went. Good news! Early Entry Admission is the new name for the previously known VIP tickets. The only thing that has changed is the name! The same things are included in the Early Entry Admission ticket as was previously included in VIP; you'll receive access to the event 1 hour earlier than General Admission and have access to limited edition and rare whiskies that will not be available during the General Admission time.

Will there be Designated Driver (DD) Tickets available?

• Due to limited capacity, there are no DD tickets offered for the event. Please be responsible and coordinate a ride using a ride share service or friend/family member.

Are samples free?

• Once you have your ticket for admission and enter the venue, you will not be charged for any whiskey tasting.

Are cocktails free?

• Each guest will receive 1 ticket for each of the specialty cocktail branded sample bars (3-5 cocktail samples per event). Don’t think of a traditional bar where you walk up and tell the bartender what you’d like. The cocktail bars are hosted by showcasing brands and typically offer just one specialty cocktail per bar. Each attendee will have one redemption ticket for each of the cocktail bars. This redemption method is only used for the cocktail bars and not for the general sampling of whiskeys (it’s rooted in an effort to make sure that showcasing brands have enough inventory for everyone).

Is the event for people 21 and over?

• Yes. If a person is under 21 years old and tries to enter the event with a ticket they purchased online or one that was provided to them, they will not be granted entry and the purchaser will not receive a refund for the ticket. You must be 21 years of age or older to enter this event and no exceptions to the rule will be made.

Do I have to buy anything when I’m in the event?

• No! All whiskey samples are included with purchase of admission. Complimentary water bottles will be available in the event!

Can I purchase merchandise or food at the event?

• Yes! There will be food and merchandise on site for purchase.

Is there security?

• There will be security present at the event and they are tasked with keeping the evening civilized and safe. Please be courteous, respectful and kind to others and keep in mind that everyone is coming together to have fun and positive experience.

Strong Suggestions for a Safe and Enjoyable Time:

• Eat a hearty meal beforehand! There's nothing worse than being hungry, and while we'll have snacks on hand and food for purchase, we encourage you to eat before the event.

• Use the spit buckets. Seriously. You’re doing a tasting and should pace yourself! There’s no pressure to drink everything you’re trying. The brand representatives who will be present expect you to spit out their products after trying and won’t be offended if you do! It may seem silly or impolite, but it’s how the whiskey world works. This is sage advice.

• Rinse out your glass between whiskeys! You don’t want a new bourbon to taste like the last smokey Islay scotch you tried!

• Do not pre-game the event. Fight any social temptation you may have to do so. Your evening will be so much more enjoyable if you just wait for the event to start imbibing.

• There’s going to be a rush at the beginning of the event as people get in and spread throughout the venue. It may seem like you won’t have enough time to try everything you want, but we promise that you will. No need to rush, be pushy or drink quickly. You will have time to explore everything!

• Please coordinate a ride home from a ride share service or friend/family member.

Hard Rules (Break them and you’re out):

• No violence or aggressive behavior
• No firearms or weapons, regardless of personal permits
• No smoking in the venue

*Fort Worth Whiskey Riot proudly benefits the Family Meal Hospitality Trust 501(c)

Get Tickets Today!

Join us this Saturday for afternoon music with Jeremy Parsons from 2-5pm.
Relax with your favorite War Trail Spirits cocktail!

This Saturday, join us for a very special Memorial Day weekend event! Douglas Taurel, from the American Soldier solo show, will have a booth at the distillery from noon to 4 p.m. to chat with guests about the 𝗔𝗺𝗲𝗿𝗶𝗰𝗮𝗻 𝗦𝗼𝗹𝗱𝗶𝗲𝗿 𝗪𝗵𝗶𝘀𝗸𝗲𝘆. This American Single Malt will be available by the bottle (or taste) as you enjoy live music from Rubi Groove and Bobby Beal and tasty food from SpeakEasy Grill!

The American Soldier is a powerful and emotional Off-Broadway one-man show that pays tribute to the bravery and sacrifices of our military veterans. Nominated for an Amnesty International Award and performed in over 50 cities, including the Kennedy Center, the Library of Congress, and Off-Broadway. Based on real stories and letters written by veterans and their families, from the Revolution to our recent wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. The play gives honor and brings to life our soldiers' struggles at war, their internal struggles to return home, and their sacrifices to our nation. For more info, go to https://www.theamericansoldiersoloshow.com/

Get ready for a soulful afternoon! Join us at Milam & Greene Distillery on Saturday May 24th from 12-5pm for Blues, BBQ & Bourbon! Enjoy live blues tunes by the fantastic JC Lipsey and Dan G while savoring delicious BBQ and sipping on handcrafted bourbon. Come sip & savor with us

Whiskey & Summer Vibes: Memorial Day Block Party!

Kick off summer under the oaks at Treaty Oak Distilling’s Memorial Day celebration! Saturday, May 24th (12-4PM) featuring:

Live beats from TX Dub DJs

Gourmet taco stations

Local farmer’s market

Craft cocktail experience

Family-friendly with FREE entry! Just minutes from Austin in beautiful Dripping Springs

Doors open at 6pm

Show starts at 7pm

VIP Tables include 4 concert tickets, 4 cocktail tickets, and an appetizer for the table.

VIP Lounge includes 8 concert tickets, private indoor lounge plus 8 adjacent outdoor seats. Also includes one bottle of Stryker Smoked Old-Fashioned (serves 12) and a buffet for 8ppl catered by Speakeasy Grill.

Cactus Lee is Texas music at its core, a blend of Austin nightclub vibes, and dusty dancefloor energy. Led by prolific Austin songwriter Kevin Dehan, Cactus Lee reflects a deep love for Texas country songwriters, interwoven with the bold spirit of outlaw and outsider influences. With a sound that is at once childlike, dreamy, and sharply witty—reminiscent of icons like John Prine and Tom T. Hall—Cactus Lee has carved a distinctive niche in the music world since its inception in 2019. Over six albums, including two releases in 2023, a live album, and multiple EPs, Dehan’s songwriting and self-recorded efforts on a four-track have been the foundation of a constantly evolving project.

Through evocative lyrics and thoughtfully textured instrumentation, Cactus Lee’s self-titled album reaffirms Kevin Dehan’s ability to distill the essence of Texas twang into songs that resonate far beyond the Lone Star State.

Get Tickets Here

Friday night just got a little more interesting! Big shoutout to @andrewblantonmusic, @bkinsel , and Sergio Martinez for shaking things up. We are excited to hear them swapping songs in the tasting room – who knows what magic they'll create? It's gonna be an awesome night of music. See you all there!

Join the Whiskey Crusaders on Sunday May 18, 2025 at 7pm with Kilchoman Global Ambassador Emma McHarrie who is town one day only and we have the privilege of hosting her at the Whiskey Castle. Certainly one of my all time favorite Scottish Distilleries from Islay. If you love peat you will love this masterclass and dinner with Kilchoman. The event which feature 8 amazing scotches from Kilchoman.

Tickets are $99 per person and more information at the link below.

https://whiskeycrusaders.com/.../kilchomanmasterclass051.../

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Want to learn how to craft cocktails like the pros? Join us for a two-hour seminar where you'll learn the fundamentals of mixology—without lifting a shaker!

During this lecture-style experience, our expert bartenders will guide you through the tools of the trade and demonstrate how to properly measure, shake, stir, strain, and garnish. You’ll also discover when, and why, a cocktail should be shaken or stirred to bring out the best in each ingredient.

While our bartenders demonstrate each technique, you’ll get to enjoy three signature Garrison Brothers bourbon cocktails, each paired with delicious small bites created by Chef Jack Mac. Along the way, we’ll dive into the history of bourbon and how it became the American spirit, along with the story of Garrison Brothers—Texas’ first legal bourbon distillery.

A commemorative Cocktail Seminar Garrison Brothers Single Barrel Bourbon will be available exclusively through ticket purchase—this one-of-a-kind release will not be available for sale at the event, so be sure to secure your bottle when purchasing your ticket. Don’t miss your chance to claim this special release!

Spots are limited, so come ready to sip, savor, and deepen your knowledge of all things bourbon.

Ticket Link

Whiskey Riot is officially returning to San Antonio on May 17, 2025.

This event is *THE* event of the year for whiskey lovers and the whiskey curious where you'll get to try over 200 whiskies, taste creative whiskey cocktails, meet fellow whiskey lovers, and more.

Ready to riot? Keep reading + make sure to mark yourself as 'Going' or 'Interested in this event page to stay up to date on all things Jacksonville Whiskey Riot

Whiskey Riot: A Festival of Whiskeys

• The world of whiskey is vast; diving in can be daunting. Our festival offers samplings of hundreds of whiskeys, seminars and fantastic conversations with whiskey lovers, distillers, brand founders and more to arm you with the tools you need to become a whiskey expert. And, oh, yeah... you'll have one hell of a time.

WHO IS WHISKEY RIOT FOR?

• The Whiskey Lover, the Whiskey Curious, the Whiskey Enthusiast, the Whiskey Aficionado, the Whiskey Rookie. All are welcome!

WHY SHOULD YOU ATTEND?

• Discovering new whiskeys can be an expensive exploration. Signage in a liquor store and the details on a bottle’s label will only tell you so much. How do you know you’re going to take home something you love? There’s no better way to find your new favorite drink than side-by-side comparison tasting.

• Whiskey Riot is a large format tasting event complete with brand representatives who can answer questions, explain the nuances of what your tasting and leave you feeling armed with more whiskey knowledge.

FAQs and General Rules

• Date: Saturday, May 17, 2025
• Time: 4-7 PM (Early Entry Admission Hour: 3-4 PM)
• Place: Freeman Expo Hall - Hall 2, 3201 E. Houston St., San Antonio, TX 78219

How many whiskeys will be available to try?

• Over 200 varieties!

What’s included in a General Admission (GA) Ticket?

• General Admission ticket holders will receive a branded rocks tasting glass and be given full range of the venue to taste whichever whiskeys they desire. Sorting through this many whiskeys would require a prohibitively expensive investment in bottles were a whiskey explorer to pursue a tasting this vast on their own. The GA ticket provides a pathway to finding your new favorite whiskey without breaking the bank.

What’s included in an Early Entry Admission Ticket (formerly known VIP tickets)?

• Early Entry Admission ticket holders (formerly known as VIP in years past) will receive access to the event 1 hour earlier than General Admission entry. They’ll receive all of the same benefits of the General Admission ticket, which include a branded tasting glass, full range of the venue to taste whichever whiskeys they desire and access to limited edition and rare whiskies that will not be available during the General Admission time (list to be added in late-December!) The big emphasis on this ticket is an extra hour in the event without large crowds.

What happened to VIP tickets?

• If you bought VIP tickets for previous years, you might wonder where those went. Good news! Early Entry Admission is the new name for the previously known VIP tickets. The only thing that has changed is the name! The same things are included in the Early Entry Admission ticket as was previously included in VIP; you'll receive access to the event 1 hour earlier than General Admission and have access to limited edition and rare whiskies that will not be available during the General Admission time.

Will there be Designated Driver (DD) Tickets available?

• Due to limited capacity, there are no DD tickets offered for the event. Please be responsible and coordinate a ride using a ride share service or friend/family member.

Are samples free?

• Once you have your ticket for admission and enter the venue, you will not be charged for any whiskey tasting.

Are cocktails free?

• Each guest will receive 1 ticket for each of the specialty cocktail branded sample bars (3-5 cocktail samples per event). Don’t think of a traditional bar where you walk up and tell the bartender what you’d like. The cocktail bars are hosted by showcasing brands and typically offer just one specialty cocktail per bar. Each attendee will have one redemption ticket for each of the cocktail bars. This redemption method is only used for the cocktail bars and not for the general sampling of whiskeys (it’s rooted in an effort to make sure that showcasing brands have enough inventory for everyone).

Is the event for people 21 and over?

• Yes. If a person is under 21 years old and tries to enter the event with a ticket they purchased online or one that was provided to them, they will not be granted entry and the purchaser will not receive a refund for the ticket. You must be 21 years of age or older to enter this event and no exceptions to the rule will be made.

Do I have to buy anything when I’m in the event?

• No! All whiskey samples are included with purchase of admission. Complimentary water bottles will be available in the event!

Can I purchase merchandise or food at the event?

• Yes! There will be food and merchandise on site for purchase.

Is there security?

• There will be security present at the event and they are tasked with keeping the evening civilized and safe. Please be courteous, respectful and kind to others and keep in mind that everyone is coming together to have fun and positive experience.

Strong Suggestions for a Safe and Enjoyable Time:

• Eat a hearty meal beforehand! There's nothing worse than being hungry, and while we'll have snacks on hand and food for purchase, we encourage you to eat before the event.

• Use the spit buckets. Seriously. You’re doing a tasting and should pace yourself! There’s no pressure to drink everything you’re trying. The brand representatives who will be present expect you to spit out their products after trying and won’t be offended if you do! It may seem silly or impolite, but it’s how the whiskey world works. This is sage advice.

• Rinse out your glass between whiskeys! You don’t want a new bourbon to taste like the last smokey Islay scotch you tried!

• Do not pre-game the event. Fight any social temptation you may have to do so. Your evening will be so much more enjoyable if you just wait for the event to start imbibing.

• There’s going to be a rush at the beginning of the event as people get in and spread throughout the venue. It may seem like you won’t have enough time to try everything you want, but we promise that you will. No need to rush, be pushy or drink quickly. You will have time to explore everything!

• Please coordinate a ride home from a ride share service or friend/family member.

Hard Rules (Break them and you’re out):

• No violence or aggressive behavior
• No firearms or weapons, regardless of personal permits
• No smoking in the venue

*Jacksonville Whiskey Riot proudly benefits the Family Meal Hospitality Trust 501(c)

Bring the Heat: First Annual Crawfish Cook-Off at William Price Distilling!

Think your crawfish boil is the best around? It’s time to put it to the test at William Price Distilling’s First Annual Crawfish Cook-Off! 🦐🔥

Gather your crew and show off your skills for a shot at trophies, bragging rights, gift baskets, and a cash prize for the overall winner. Each team entry includes 10–15 pounds of crawfish, 5 VIP wristbands for your friends or family, a welcome goodie bag, and a secured booth space. Booth space is limited, so make sure you sign up at the bar soon!

Get ready for a day packed with flavor, friendly competition, and plenty of good times. More event details coming soon — stay tuned!

An Afternoon of Spirits, Music, and Flavor at Fire Oak Distillery

Looking for the perfect Saturday escape? Join us at Fire Oak Distillery on May 17th for an afternoon of handcrafted spirits, live music, and unforgettable food — all set against the beautiful backdrop of the Texas Hill Country.

Kick back from 12–6 PM with live music by Royce Reed Texas Piano, sip on award-winning local spirits, and enjoy a special menu crafted by The Salty Flipper. Relax under the oak trees or stretch out on the patio, soaking in the laid-back Hill Country atmosphere.

No reservations needed — just show up, bring your friends (and pups!), and enjoy a true taste of Texas.

📍 Location: Fire Oak Distillery
🗓️ Date: Saturday, May 17
🕛 Time: 12:00–6:00 PM

More details to come — stay tuned!

Celebrate Mom in style this Mother’s Day!

Join us for a special Mother’s Day Buffet Lunch from 12–4 PM, featuring a mouthwatering menu with everything from a fresh raw bar and artisan charcuterie to savory mains like Santa Maria Tri Tip and Blackened Mahi Mahi, plus decadent desserts to top it all off.

Live music, amazing food, and a beautiful day to celebrate the ones we love.

Adults $69.95 | Kids 3+ $19.99

You can purchase your tickets now on our website! Just click the link in our bio or visit treatyoakdistilling.com — head to the “Shop Now” dropdown menu, select “Services,” and choose your package.

Let’s make this Mother’s Day unforgettable!

Celebrate Mother’s Day at William Price Distilling with Cocktails & Custom Bouquets

This Sunday, treat Mom to something truly special at William Price Distilling. From handcrafted cocktails to a free Make Your Own Bouquet station, it’s the perfect way to celebrate Mother’s Day in style.

🌸 Mother’s Day – Sunday, May 11
Bring your creativity and make a custom floral bouquet—free while supplies last! Sip on expertly crafted drinks, enjoy the welcoming atmosphere, and make memories with Mom that go beyond brunch.

Stick around to learn about the William Price Spirit Society—your weekly pass to sipping on award-winning spirits for free.

Come join the Whiskey Crusaders to welcome back one of our all time favorite guests and the 2025 Icons of Whisky Rest of the World Winner Master Distiller/Blender Dr. Don Livermore of the Hiram Walker Distillery in Canada for a masterclass and dinner. We will be focusing this visit on JP Wiser's & Lot 40 along with a couple of special Canada exclusives for the evening. The JP Wiser's 42 Year will be featured for the evening which was my Canadian Whisky of the Year. For the full list for the evening and tickets are $75 per person at the following link.

Tickets here

Mother’s Day Event: Bottle Your Own Whiskey at Milam & Greene Distillery

Looking for a one-of-a-kind way to celebrate Mother’s Day? Milam & Greene Distillery in the Texas Hill Country is hosting a special Bottle Your Own Whiskey event! Families are invited to hand-bottle a limited edition, barrel-proof whiskey — aged six months in a rich port cask — just in time for a perfect Mother’s Day gift.

Guests at the Milam & Greene Distillery can run the bottling line themselves, fill and label their own bottle, and create a personal keepsake. This family-friendly (and dog-friendly!) event also features live music, food trucks, and local vendors for an afternoon full of fun, food, and spirits.

It’s all part of Milam & Greene’s celebration of strong women and the talented female-led team behind the brand.

To stay updated on new releases and events like this Mother’s Day experience, sign up for Milam & Greene’s newsletter or visit their website.

Celebrate Mother’s Day with a truly unforgettable whiskey experience at Milam & Greene Distillery!

Join Garrison Brothers for a Meet the Maker Tasting and Bottle Signing at Total Wine & More with Garrison Brothers founder, Dan Garrison. Enjoy a guided tasting of our award-winning Small Batch, HoneyDew, and Single Barrel Sampler bourbons—and don’t miss the chance to get your bottles signed by Dan himself. We can’t wait to see y’all there.

Salud!

Would you like to experience the finest expression of Scotch whisky produced today? Would you like to expand your knowledge of Scotch and the many styles and flavours that make up quality whisky?

Join The Scotch Malt Whisky Society for a rare single malt Scotch whisky tasting experience at Austin's Wizard Academy! Attendees will be among the first to taste six (6) unique single malts from our upcoming May Outturn in a seated, guided tasting format designed to expand your knowledge and appreciation for Scotch whisky.

Based in Edinburgh, Scotland, The Scotch Malt Whisky Society is the world’s largest whisky club of whisky lovers. More than just a club, the Society is known for offering the finest expression of Scotch whisky produced today. It acquires exceptional whisky casks from distilleries across Scotland and beyond. Each cask is then bottled and offered exclusively to its community of members through the Society’s online shop smwsa.com.

While Society whisky is available for purchase by members only, this event is open to anyone eager to taste and learn in the company of fellow whisky lovers. Members enjoy a reduced price for admission and all attendees who order tickets before 4pm CT on April 17th will get the early bird special pricing.

Slàinte Mhath!

Check the Eventbrite Page for more details